{"id":2360,"date":"2024-10-11T02:37:00","date_gmt":"2024-10-11T00:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.povijest.net\/?p=2360"},"modified":"2025-02-04T16:14:02","modified_gmt":"2025-02-04T15:14:02","slug":"ako-postoji-bog-morat-ce-moliti-za-moj-oprost","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/2024\/ako-postoji-bog-morat-ce-moliti-za-moj-oprost\/","title":{"rendered":"Ako postoji Bog, morat \u0107e moliti za moj oprost"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>U internetskom prostoru kru\u017ei navodna misao logora\u0161a (iz Aushwitza ili Mauthausena) koji se u tjeskobnom trenutku obratio bogu. Tema holokausta i odnosa logora\u0161a i biv\u0161ih logora\u0161a prema bogu i vjeri je prili\u010dno zanimljiva i stoga ne \u010dudi da se misao <em>Ako postoji Bog, morat \u0107e moliti za moj oprost<\/em> ponavlja.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"130\" src=\"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/clionaut_preporuke-za-srednju-skolu-1024x130.jpg\" alt=\"Clionaut preporuka: za srednje \u0161kole\" class=\"wp-image-7256\" srcset=\"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/clionaut_preporuke-za-srednju-skolu-1024x130.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/clionaut_preporuke-za-srednju-skolu-300x38.jpg 300w, https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/clionaut_preporuke-za-srednju-skolu-768x98.jpg 768w, https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/clionaut_preporuke-za-srednju-skolu.jpg 1180w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-pmpro-membership\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns has-border-color is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\" style=\"border-color:#cf2e2e;border-style:dashed;border-width:1px;border-radius:10px\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-cyan-bluish-gray-color has-text-color has-link-color has-small-font-size wp-elements-948331d77a7dcf4e9518fc66f3402adb\">Reklame se ne prikazuju \u010dlanovima Clionaut Akademije:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Kod provjere to\u010dnosti informacije <strong>najlak\u0161i i najbr\u017ei na\u010din je provjera izvora uz pomo\u0107 interneta<\/strong>. Tra\u017ei se izvor informacije i po mogu\u0107nosti izvor koji se mo\u017ee smatrati pouzdanim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ova se misao vrti po Facebooku, Twitteru, YouTubeu i raznim web stranicama. Dobru po\u010detnu informaciju prona\u0161ao sam na stranici <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/skeptics.stackexchange.com\/questions\/18913\/did-a-jewish-prisoner-write-this-quote-about-god-and-forgiveness\/18920#18920?newreg=a3bfa9490bb54d30a80799fc1f76a21a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">skeptics <\/a><\/strong>gdje neimenovani autor nastavlja raspravu s Reddita. Navodi da je informacija o tome vjerojatno to\u010dna da se radi o logora\u0161u koji je to napisao na zidu logora Mauthausen. Kao potkrijepu to\u010dnosti navodi da je tu informaciju prona\u0161ao u knjizi i nekom <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/8r50t7148sA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">talijanskom dokumentarcu na Youtubeu<\/a>. Tu se vi\u0161e povela rasprava o tome mo\u017ee li se znati radi li se o \u017eidovskom logora\u0161u \u0161to zaklju\u010duju da je to vrlo upitno.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To me nije uvjerilo pa sam provjerio dokumentarac i navedenu knjigu. \u0160to se dokumentarca ti\u010de original se vi\u0161e ne mo\u017ee prona\u0107i online, a u ovoj dostupnoj snimci izgleda da tu misao prikazuju montiranu u sam film. Dakle ne iz samog logora. \u0160to se knjige ti\u010de dostupna je samo jedna u kojoj se spominje ta misao. Radi se o naslovu <em>Searching for the Holy Grail: My Travels in Western Europe<\/em> kojeg je napisao neki ameri\u010dki ra\u010dunalni stru\u010dnjak kao sje\u0107anja na proputovanja Europom. Knjigu je izdala neka digitalna naklada i na <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Searching-Holy-Grail-Travels-Western\/dp\/1589396472\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Amazonu <\/a>ima dvije ocjene. Putopisac navodi tu misao kao anegdotu koju je pokupio.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Obzirom da nisam na\u0161ao pouzdani izvor sljede\u0107i korak bio je kontaktirati pravi izvor. Po\u0161to sam siguran da takva misao nije povezana s logorom Auschwitz kontaktirao sam edukacijski odjel Memorijalnog centra koncentracijskog logora Mauthausen. Gospodin C. Duerr i gospo\u0111a T. Barac su mi e-mailom potvrdili da se radi o <strong>glasini <\/strong>i da takav zapis <strong>nikada nije postojao<\/strong> u logoru.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text is-stacked-on-mobile is-image-fill-element\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"710\" src=\"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/holokaust-naslovnica-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-11208 size-full\" style=\"object-position:54% 57%\" srcset=\"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/holokaust-naslovnica-1.jpg 500w, https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/holokaust-naslovnica-1-211x300.jpg 211w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p>Vi\u0161e o mitovima i zabludama poveznima uz Holokaust mo\u017eete istra\u017eiti u knjizi &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/downloads\/knjiga-holokaust-mitovi-zablude-i-poricanje\/\">Holokaust \u2013 mitovi, zablude i poricanje<\/a>&#8220;.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>U internetskom prostoru kru\u017ei navodna misao logora\u0161a (iz Aushwitza ili Mauthausena) koji se u tjeskobnom trenutku obratio bogu. Tema holokausta i odnosa logora\u0161a i biv\u0161ih logora\u0161a prema bogu i vjeri [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2361,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_EventAllDay":false,"_EventTimezone":"","_EventStartDate":"","_EventEndDate":"","_EventStartDateUTC":"","_EventEndDateUTC":"","_EventShowMap":false,"_EventShowMapLink":false,"_EventURL":"","_EventCost":"","_EventCostDescription":"","_EventCurrencySymbol":"","_EventCurrencyCode":"","_EventCurrencyPosition":"","_EventDateTimeSeparator":"","_EventTimeRangeSeparator":"","_EventOrganizerID":[],"_EventVenueID":[],"_OrganizerEmail":"","_OrganizerPhone":"","_OrganizerWebsite":"","_VenueAddress":"","_VenueCity":"","_VenueCountry":"","_VenueProvince":"","_VenueState":"","_VenueZip":"","_VenuePhone":"","_VenueURL":"","_VenueStateProvince":"","_VenueLat":"","_VenueLng":"","_VenueShowMap":false,"_VenueShowMapLink":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[212],"tags":[267,183,86,620,451],"class_list":["post-2360","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-zanimljivosti","tag-auschwitz","tag-gimnazije","tag-holokaust","tag-mauthausen","tag-provjera-tocnosti"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2360","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2360"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2360\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11349,"href":"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2360\/revisions\/11349"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2361"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2360"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2360"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/povijest.net\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2360"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}